@kdfrawg It's very possible to make this stuff more secure. Manufacturers don't prioritize security and won't until consumers demand it and/or it is required by law. Which means things will get worse, likely way worse, before they get better.
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@thrrgilag mileage has a lot to do with how a car depreciates as well. And yes, replacing the battery in a hybrid is one reason I opted for buying a new one versus buying a used one. Puts that expensive proposition off a bit.

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@kdfrawg a coffeemaker doesn't have obvious software on it, or if it does, it's ability to interact with the outside world is fairly limited. The minute you add connectivity and processing power to a device (i.e. the ability to run software, even if the end user can't upgrade it), the complexity changes dramatically and we (as a society) haven't fully come to grips with it.

Practically every electronic device sold in the US, including ones that have vulnerable software, has been certified by Underwriters Laboratory (UL) to ensure when you plug it into an electrical socket, it won't blow up. There are folks in the cybersecurity industry trying to come with the cyber equivalent of a UL certification to ensure that some level of minimum standards are followed by device manufacturers. There is a lot of debate about whether this is a good idea and what that minimum criteria should be.

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@kdfrawg Most users don't know the difference and the hardware makers exploit that fact. Definitely don't blame the user on this one. ?

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@thrrgilag nope, just a PEBKAC one :P

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Yay, there is now a confirmed trip to Tel Aviv in my near future.

Maybe because I'm manually adding them in BlurbyBot because BlurbyBot is also adding them? ?

Rather than try and explain the technology to you, it might be better to ask what problem we are trying to solve. // @kdfrawg
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@kdfrawg And thus why we end up with Mirai-style botnets taking down the Internet. //
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