My Matrix had an airbag-related issue that it was recalled for, also, but I think it might be a different issue than what you're describing.

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@kdfrawg right. Computers without a network are still hackable, but the scope is limited to physical access, which limits the potential damage. Computers with a network on the other hand… O.o

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Car audio system keeps rebooting randomly, so I'm at the dealer to see what's up.

@kdfrawg Computers with connectivity to the Internet in particular.
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@kdfrawg With cars, the implications of unsafe ones were way more obvious to the common man. With the stuff we're talking about, there is no such understanding. Doesn't make it right, but explains why it is.
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@kdfrawg It's very possible to make this stuff more secure. Manufacturers don't prioritize security and won't until consumers demand it and/or it is required by law. Which means things will get worse, likely way worse, before they get better.
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@thrrgilag mileage has a lot to do with how a car depreciates as well. And yes, replacing the battery in a hybrid is one reason I opted for buying a new one versus buying a used one. Puts that expensive proposition off a bit.

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@kdfrawg a coffeemaker doesn't have obvious software on it, or if it does, it's ability to interact with the outside world is fairly limited. The minute you add connectivity and processing power to a device (i.e. the ability to run software, even if the end user can't upgrade it), the complexity changes dramatically and we (as a society) haven't fully come to grips with it.

Practically every electronic device sold in the US, including ones that have vulnerable software, has been certified by Underwriters Laboratory (UL) to ensure when you plug it into an electrical socket, it won't blow up. There are folks in the cybersecurity industry trying to come with the cyber equivalent of a UL certification to ensure that some level of minimum standards are followed by device manufacturers. There is a lot of debate about whether this is a good idea and what that minimum criteria should be.

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@kdfrawg Most users don't know the difference and the hardware makers exploit that fact. Definitely don't blame the user on this one. ?

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@thrrgilag nope, just a PEBKAC one :P

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