PhoneBoy Says

@kdfrawg most people have no concept of what makes something “secure” much less give a crap about it. A big part of that security equation is how often the device receives software updates, something there is no easy way to evaluate prior to making a purchase short of past experience.

If I were seriously going to switch from iOS to Android, it would be to a device that has minimal OS-level customizations and receives security updates straight from Google. Which is none of the cheap handsets I’ve played with so far, or even the significantly more expensive Samsung Galaxy S8+.

@kdfrawg If I'm honest with myself, I can do a lot of the same activities on both handsets. Yes, the iPhone is better quality in many ways, but will the average person appreciate that?

I would be shocked if Symantec actually gets back into the SSL certificate game after this: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-outlines-ssl-apocalypse-for-symantec-certificates/

@matigo at that age, you're lucky ANY gets in his mouth.

@matigo the sad thing is they may never have noticed if we hadn't told them. Only person who would have known otherwise is our neighbor who was undoubtedly very happy the tree came down.

Love homeowners associations. When we told them we removed a tree they wanted to know what we were going to replace it with. Have they seen how many trees we have on our property? And did they have any clue that the tree we removed could have caused property damage if we didn't? ?

@hybotics that approach might work.

The Alcatel OneTouch Flint and the iPhone 6s+ are similarly sized but definitely not similarly priced.

@kdfrawg that's the point of backups: you never want to have to access them, but if you do, they're there.

// @nitinkhanna

@nitinkhanna As long as you don't need to access them regularly, yes.

// @kdfrawg